if you listen closely to what speaker boehner said, he also left the door open a little bit. can they get this all done in the lame-duck session? no, they cannot. can they get a little bit done what they can get the broader tax reform and spending controls done in a way that gives confidence to the ceos in this room? yes, they can do that. but the question is will they do it. >> so if you could give him one -- he did the president on the phone for two minutes and give them one piece of advice on what he has to do to get this deal done -- what would be? >> boy, i don't know. that's a tough question. i think i would tell him that he needs to spend more time with the leadership on both sides of the congress. and each open up the white house and invite more of the members of both houses and. a little bit more getting to know each other. that is not his nature. he is really introverted, to be quite frank. but he needs to reach out and